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I Would Have Shot Them: No protestor has a right to throw rocks, under any conditions

I would have shot them, the protestors who were throwing rocks at the ICE vehicles leaving the illegal immigration raid on the pot farm in California.  Rocks are considered a deadly weapon, and any federal agent who is hit by a rock is no different than having some lunatic lunge at them with a knife, or to fire a shot from a gun.  And throwing rocks into the driver’s side window of a Federal vehicle, shatter-resistant or not, is solid enough ground to use deadly force to stop.  With shatterproof glass, once a window starts to become compromised, and some of those vehicles were, continued impacts in the same area could allow the rocks to get through, and those could have been deadly.  The ICE agents did not have an obligation to flee, which they were trained to do, and that is part of the problem.  We are a stand-and-fight country, especially when it comes to law enforcement.   Those agents were just doing their jobs, and those rock-throwing ICE protestors were crossing the line with encouraged violence.  And part of that encouragement was that they did not think that the ICE agents would fight back, which encouraged the violence in the first place.  The reason many of these protests are so violent and dangerous is that there has grown an expectation that all government employees have been trained to flee rather than fight, and this has caused unwarranted aggression to grow with the expectation that violence would only flow one way.  And it would be far healthier for society to understand that impeding government operations with deadly force opens the door for a deadly response.  And as hard as those protestors were throwing those rocks at those fleeing vehicles, their deadly motivations couldn’t have been presented more obviously. 

I know it’s a pain in the neck to fill out the forms when you do shoot someone, but this California case called for it.  And it would have made future protestors think twice before doing it again.  All they would have had to do upon a rock impact striking the driver’s side window was to get out of the car and open fire into the nearest perpetrator, shooting to kill.  The paperwork processing would have been fine.  I know that the bosses of the ICE agents, trained under years of progressive understanding, have been taught to use non-lethal force and to play patty cake with these kinds of people, and none of them want to kill protestors on their watch.  So they put these ICE agents out knowing that the environment is more dangerous because of their policy decisions, because they encourage violence by not meeting it when it presents itself.  And now an entire generation of protestor types believe they can exert deadly force without having it turn back on them, and nobody takes it seriously any longer.  Nobody should think that throwing a rock at anybody is appropriate under any condition.  And at some point, ICE agents need to fight back.  Rubber bullets and stun guns just aren’t enough to use against stringy-haired socialists and radical left-wing America haters.  Before a protester arrives on the scene to throw a rock, they need to be aware of the potential consequences.  And these kids in California had no such fear, even to the point of running right up to the passenger’s side window of fleeing vehicles and tossing big rocks with all their force into windows they didn’t know were shatter-resistant or not.  At the least, they cause a lot of property damage that taxpayers are on the hook for, and the preservation of their mangy lives wasn’t worth it.  Once they decided to throw a rock, all consideration for their preservation was no longer relevant.

And is this what we’re talking about preserving, as far as the jobs illegal immigration performs, to work as underage pot pickers on a farm that provides marijuana to an already sketchy market?  I love the work ethic of immigrant labor.  I always appreciate hard workers.  But we’re supposed to believe that we have to accept tens of millions of illegal immigrants to cover jobs like this pot farm in California?  These are the kinds of jobs that I find personally useless, and if that’s what it takes to bring down the price of pot in legal states, then let the prices fall off the rocker.  Clean operations that are financially solid wouldn’t need illegal immigration to perform basic tasks.  And now watching some of the ridiculous comments from some of these ICE protestors, such as the current L.A. Mayor, are grotesquely overstated.  Even going so far as to say that we won’t be able to get our cars washed if we deport all these illegals.  If we deported tens of millions of illegals, it’s evident that legitimate businesses would be just fine, and people would not notice.  But what would be impacted are all the illegitimate businesses that are operating under the table, and that sounds like a good thing, not a bad thing.  Eliminating under-the-table labor would force many companies to clean up their current employment practices, which the California facility was found to be guilty of.  And defending that way of life was why rocks were justified in being thrown?  I don’t think so.  This isn’t a free speech issue; it’s an insistence on breaking the law issue, and ultimately comes down to law enforcement and whether everyone respects the basic premise of law and order. 

So I would have shot those protestors on the spot after the first rock had been thrown.  Granted, my profile type would likely keep me from any kind of federal employment.  I am a very aggressive concealed carry individual.  I openly walk around ready for violence all the time, and everyone knows it.  I would prefer not to shoot people, but I am always prepared to do so as soon as danger presents itself.  And my thinking on that is to call a spade what it is, and not to feed the perpetuation of violence with passive presentation of my livelihood.  And if everyone had that attitude, there would be a lot more respect for federal agents than we currently have.  However, the kind of administrative personnel we put in these jobs do not hire people like me; they have made a lot of DEI hires who would prefer not to blame people when bad things happen.  So that’s certainly part of the problem.  But until we do start seeing people shot for perpetuating violence into an otherwise peaceful society, we’ll see increases in violence that we just can’t tolerate, such as in the ICE raid on that California pot farm, a place of business that shouldn’t have been operating on a good day.  To keep a company like that alive is only making society worse upstream by producing the product it does.  So it would have been good for the government ICE agents to stand and fight, rather than flee and retreat as rocks were being thrown at their vehicles.  The moment a rock struck a car, the entire engagement changed, and deadly force should have been used.  We have to stop playing nice with these anti-American forces.  I would even go so far to say that lethal force should be used upon the burning of the American flag because such a jesture isn’t a free speech right, it’s a purposeful display that the laws of America are being cast aside, which makes the people doing so very dangerous, and in need of removal to maintain the peace.  And those are the discussions we need to be having.  And if I were driving those cars, there would have been less rock throwing, because those protestors would have been shot where they stood.  I would have gladly filled out the paperwork and still been home in time for dinner without a second thought.

Rich Hoffman

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Protestors Aren’t Valued: Threats of violance are not replacements for good debate

I would say it was a fortunate thing for me to see; after all, that’s what I was after when my wife and I recently took a vacation to Washington, D.C.  Within a few days, I was able to see protestors up close and personal in places where they cause the most trouble, and they answered questions I had been having by seeing them up close and personal.  The first group I encountered was at the Mall in Washington in front of the Lincoln Memorial.  The second was just a few days later in the rotunda of the Ohio Statehouse.  Later that same night, I saw protestors at the Lakota school emergency meeting on school funding who were there to shout down local political representatives who were called to answer for depletions for school funding.  These protestors were the “always more money” types without ever demonstrating why spending more money would ever make anything better but to push a few more of them into diabetic medicine because of their terrible diets.  By the looks of their girth around the waist, they could afford to skip a few meals and more money would only make their problems worse.  That was the same problem with the protestors in Columbus; they were screaming for more school funding without demonstrating how more money would improve anything.  Then, of course, the protestors at the Mall were protesting Elon Musk’s attack on science when, in reality, he is personally doing more to enhance science than anybody in the world.  They were all such negative people who were very difficult to have any relationship with because the nature of their existence was below the line, and to my way of thinking, that makes them impossible to work with.  You can’t build a prosperous society with below-the-line people by using a business metaphor popular in efficiency discussions.  Negative people drowning in their misery need fulfillment that they can’t give themselves, which they misperceive as more of something to cover what is lost in themselves. 

I have a lifestyle that moves very fast.  I do a lot more during a typical day than most people will do in a month.  I don’t say that I want to put anybody down, but yeah, many people waste time talking about nothing, and I am not one of them.  I find something else to do when I sense that someone is wasting my time.  So I don’t get to see these kinds of protestors very often because I live my life in a way that doesn’t have time for them.  I don’t value what their problems are because I see Democrat politics as a political expression of a broken person who has not dealt with their deficient thinking.  And broken people are not equal to people who purposefully live good lives.  It is not correct or fair to penalize a good person with the thoughts of a bad person.  As defined here, an evil person is a person who allows bad decisions to govern their existence purposefully.  We aren’t talking about a mistake in judgment here and there; we are talking about purposeful neglect, using victimization status to avoid doing work, solving a problem, or even raising kids.  My experience with school funding protestors, for instance, is that they are surface-level people who do not have the self-confidence to raise their children, so the fantasy of state ownership of their children means they can appear to the world to care for their kids but what it does is allow them to blame someone else for the deficiencies of their children’s growth.  It’s much easier to blame a teacher or school funding when the real problem is the parents themselves.  The public education debate allows them to defer their responsibility in contributing to the problem because if only more money were spent on the children, nobody would notice that the protester is just a bad parent and probably a bad person.

Another aspect of this whole issue is that bad people, such as protestors, have been able to hide their failures behind the value of free speech.  In our form of government, where we encourage debate, we have not set a high enough bar, which is now occurring, for the quality of an opinion. Instead, protestors were celebrated for participating in the free speech debate, which is the cornerstone of our Republic, because they stood around like idiots holding a sign, protesting something.  Rather than present a reasonable argument about something that could be debated, they fall into the Al Green side of victimization protest, copying what they think worked during the Civil Rights movement.  So let me explain something about all that.  The Democrats wanted to erase their sins of the past of being slaveholders, and Lyndon Johnson was in the White House looking to bridge that gap and steal the merit away from Republicans who had been championing Civil Rights for people of color all along.  The protests of the flower children during that period were not the mechanism that launched reform.  It was the cover story of actual guilt that Democrats wanted to rid themselves of through the optics of protest.  So, the protests are not what moved the legislative needle on reform.  It was only a fake cover story to distract reporters and historians from the Democrat past of alignment on slaveholding as a political party that had been for it but wanted a divorce due to modern pressure to compete with Republicans and maybe even beat them at their own game.

So, the protests never worked.  And they certainly won’t work this time.  The vicious attacks against Tesla because Elon Musk is the CEO of the company only remind people of the kind of negative people who turn to protest rather than logical arguments and further root the MAGA movement to a growing audience.  The destruction or else form of political debate isn’t going to work.  They think that if they threaten to destroy property or even fight you in the parking lot of a public school, you will be compelled to see things their way for your safety and desire to preserve your property.  These people caught on camera keying the paint job of Tesla owners is the worst form of grievance jealousy that is attempting to disguise a flawed and broken person behind the value of the First Amendment.  But because they can’t articulate a debate, they only have the threat of violence and destruction as a counterpoint.  But if they run into MAGA supporters who are better at violence and fighting than they are, well, then they are in real trouble.  I certainly don’t have room or tolerance for one bit of bad behavior and below-the-line thinkers.  I’ll listen to a reasonable debate, but to be honest, I sniff things out very fast and determine if someone is wasting my time, and I will move beyond them quicker than they can blink.  And I’m certainly not alone in this.  These protestors will not recreate the past hippie movement protests and get legislative representation.  They will be left behind because that is the mode of the world.  I would say that it was always that way and that protests in America were more theater than substance.  But it’s even more so today, and seeing the early strategy against the Trump administration in general by protestors without an argument, they will not be successful because all they have to offer is violence.  And the people they are threatening aren’t going to put up with it. 

Rich Hoffman

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