The Bible Says Earth is Roughly 6000 Years Old: Understanding water displacment

I really like people like Mel Gibson and Ken Ham, one the famous actor, the other the creator of The Ark Encounter just south of Cincinnati.  However, both believe in the scriptural understanding of the earth’s history, that it is roughly 6000 years old.  I would argue that they aren’t wrong if you measure years differently than we do on Earth, but that is an entirely different discussion.  Regarding earth sciences, it says that life on Earth is billions of years old and is at apparent odds with scriptural timelines.  Within these kinds of debates, the truth gets concealed from people, which is partly on purpose and other parts unfortunate.  It’s challenging to put science into a belief system, just as it’s hard for people who build a belief system in science to alter a previous assumption because of their emotional investment.  I don’t hold it over Mel Gibson in any way; I can’t wait for his new movie on the Resurrection of Christ.  That will be a life-changing movement for all human history and change the world.  I believe God’s hand has pointed his life in the direction of making this movie the whole time.  So I can’t wait for it in 2026 or 2027 when they finally finish the movie which is a sequel to The Passion.  Because I love the Bible and have had a relationship with it all my life, it comes up a lot more now. How can you love the Bible and love science? The two are incompatible.  I hear all the time that Earth is only 6000 years old and that Charles Darwin was an absolute idiot.  I also hear a lot that we never landed on the moon.  But I think there is compelling evidence in both categories that will erase any doubt very soon, so people believe what they believe, and if it holds them together as people, that is the important thing.  But that doesn’t make everything a fact.  

Mel Gibson is a very smart person who is very passionate about many things, making him a great actor and creative director.  But he has lived a very rocky life, living hard and going through many women.  For a period in the 80s and 90s, he was the sexiest man alive by many considerations, and it was hard for him to maintain his sanity, I think, being a hand of God and having every woman in the world throwing themselves at his feet already undressed.  So, I don’t blame him at all for holding onto scripture like a disabled person holds on to the handrail while going down the steps.  But he recently said something on the Joe Rogan Podcast that was very interesting and part of the movement of trying to fit science into scripture, which is popular these days.  However, I argue differently because I see science trying to force understanding into the same problem, where new evidence is ignored to maintain a scientific narrative.  I’m just going to say it; everyone is going to be screwed up in a few years once we get out into space to discover that humans came from out there, not through Darwin’s evolution, and that many of the things we believe are going to be shattered with new evidence.  That doesn’t make scripture any less relevant or some scientific method.  It just means that discovery gives new evidence and that we must let that evidence tell the story.  Not to make the story fit our assumptions. 

Anyway, Mel Gibson was telling Joe Rogan that he doesn’t believe the idea that the ocean levels weren’t lower during the Ice Age, as I have been saying, 400 feet lower.  Mel Gibson said that if you put ice in a glass of water when the ice melts, the water doesn’t displace itself over the rim of the glass.  The level of the water doesn’t change.  And from the point of view of mass and how we measure it, he’s got a point.  But he was missing that during the Ice Age, massive amounts of Earth’s water were tied up in glaciers, and those giant blocks of ice were coming down over both poles and were mostly over land.  The weight of the ice itself is what caused the Great Lakes in North America.  The weight was so great that it flattened the earth’s crust in that location, which is still rising back up to a circumference, pushing the water out and into the St. Lawrence Seaway and, ultimately, the Atlantic Ocean.  Another several thousand years, and the Great Lakes won’t even be there.  So because of this massive effect of glaciers displacing large amounts of water over the land masses, the world’s sea levels were 400 feet lower.  At that time, you could have walked from England to France without getting your feet wet, except for a few ancient rivers.  And the Persian Gulf was above water all the way down to Dubai.  Most of Florida extended well into the Bahamas, Cuba, and the Yucatan Peninsula.  If you have read the Book of Morman, there were old civilizations in North and South America that the Nephites and Lamanites interacted with when they migrated from Jerusalem around 600 B.C.  Even then, it looks like land mass was lost to the sea. 

I would further offer that if you look at the previous shorelines of water levels that were oceanfront during the Ice Age, we will discover a lot of ancient civilizations and that the assumption science has of linear technical development is ridiculous.  Rather, we are dealing with the Vico Cycle here, where human civilization has started and stopped throughout history.  And that history goes back millions of years.  Not just 10 thousand years.  And likely goes out into space.  I think there is compelling evidence that Jerusalem goes back to settlement with a cave system under Mt. Moriah and that the Temple Platform that King Solomon built his temple on, and the current Dome of the Rock was significant, perhaps even millions of years ago.  And many of the world’s religions have purposely been put at each other’s throats to conceal the truth, which we’ll likely figure out once we start colonizing Mars.  Much of what we know now about everything will change with new evidence, and we have to be willing to look at that evidence without losing the importance of our belief systems.  It can be tricky business, but it’s not impossible.  Everyone must understand that the bad guys out there purposely seek to pit people’s beliefs against each other to conceal or use the truth to their advantage.  So, because Mel Gibson doesn’t quite understand water displacement concepts and how they relate to ocean levels, that doesn’t mean that what he says in his movies, especially the upcoming Resurrection, is false.  It’s just perspective.  The art says what it says.  And that is the same whether we are talking about the Bible, the Book of Morman, or the Quran.  I find them all very fascinating, and there are certain truths there.  But there is a lot else that science is unpacking, and our scope will increase with new information.  We must have the guts to look at that information and not hide from it, which is the case with science and what we look at regarding previous ocean levels.  And what we will discover under the water, especially off the coast of Cuba, India, Japan, and the Persian Gulf.  It’s going to be a mind-bending few years of upcoming adventure.  And we will all be better off for it.

Rich Hoffman

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