Look at the mighty billboard advertising Lakota Tomahawk football and cheerleading registration. Doesn’t it look expensive? Considering these types of extracurricular activities are now pay to play sports at Lakota because of the levy failures, the advertising of on this billboard seems misleading, even audacious. That is because anyone can see the hypocrisy just in looking at that billboard. The Lakota School System needs its sports programs to keep busy parents occupied on something easily measured like sports to justify the extraordinary cost of public education. Sports unite a community under school pride that causes regular thinking people to forgive many of the flaws inherit in any school system where education methods simply fall short most of the time to the expected results.
But even deeper than that, the government schools know that they need parents to buy into the pride of their sporting programs because it is a proven formula into gaining additional revenue. Mike Brown mastered this art when he constructed his stadium deal with Hamilton County in the mid 90’s which have led to nearly bankrupting the city of Cincinnati today, even though the warnings were sounded by many beforehand. Cincinnati did not want their Bengals to leave for another city, so they did whatever they had to do to make Mike Brown happy.
Labor unions and school boards have figured out that the same formula works in their education institutions for obtaining additional taxes. They use sports and a parents pride in their child’s participation to increase their budgets and obtain increased wages and benefits for the employees. It’s a nice little sleight-of-hand that has been going on for many years now. Parents have shown they will support higher taxes to give their children an opportunity to be a part of a winning team, or even the possibility of a scholarship.
The other side of this issue is that once the school marketing has successfully created in the mind of the parents and the community the need for sports to fill the community newspapers, the school sports programs are part of the cultural significance of an entire district. This of course gives schools leverage over voters when it comes time to ask for increases in taxes, because the community overwhelmingly wants sports from the schools to entertain them. For many parents it is more fun to root for the kids in their neighborhood rather than those at a professional level, because they can relate to the local athletes. So if a school like Lakota does not get their funds, they can then make the sports programs pay-for-play programs, which is just a fancy way of extorting the public into voting in favor of higher taxes. This is where Lakota is. They want parents to sign up their children into sports programs and they’ll spend the money on a sign to advertise the openings, then they’ll turn right around and demand $500 per sport for a child to play. What gets missed in the discussion is that the employees of the district are already being paid an average salary of $63k per year and many of the teachers would happily donate their time so that the kids could be coached. And uniforms and other costs are already covered by other fees that the parents must commit to. And at football games there is admission revenue, concessions and other streams of money that come back from the community and go to the school. So why the $500 fees? Where does it go and who gets it?
The fees are to force a community to pass a levy, to increase the taxes on their property and its raw extortion that is very destructive to the sustainability of neighborhoods everywhere. Such a practice is incredibly short-sighted and brings to question the merit of the entire educational institution when reason cannot be seen by them, yet they insist they are qualified to teach our children.
Darryl Parks of 700 WLW and I have been at this levy fighting thing for a long time. He is currently gearing up his fight against the Forest Hills Levy in his district. One of the great fights of our time is the realization that we have seen what tax increases do. We’ve seen over time what tax increases have done to Cincinnati Public, Reading, Princeton, Mt. Healthy, and Fairfield, those with means and money move away. Currently the wealth band of affluence is around the I-275 loop most notably Sycamore, Mason and of course Lakota. Darryl and I know that this trend will last for a few short years and once taxes become too great, residents who now have grown children will simply move on to a cheaper home that is taxed at a lower rate. This brings down the demand for homes since a disproportionate amount of homes hit the market in a given area as average home values decrease.
Growing up, I used to work on Chester Road just down the road from Princeton High School. That was the days when many of the Reds players lived on the west side and in Blue Ash, so Chester Road was the main strip in all of Cincinnati. It was where everything happened. Restaurants like the Wind Jammer and Bombay Bicycle club where the destination dinning centers in the city and I was right in the middle of it. Because of all this Princeton City School dominated sports as many involved parents made their home around the Princeton District to be near this hot spot of activity. Today Princeton has an average per pupil cost of $15K per student and it’s a district in decline simply because many of the successful home owners have moved away and now reside in Lakota and Mason. Today Chester Road in Sharonville is only a slim reminder of what it once was, a victim of high taxes that push away property owners and businesses.
The church I always attended all through my life in Fairfield used to be the heart of community. Playboy Magazine in the 80’s listed Fairfield as having the most attractive high school girls in the country because it was a rising star of economic activity–so attractive, successful parents moved to Fairfield to be near the great schools and great shopping on RT. 4. My church always had lots of very attractive girls looking for a date, and had a very active youth group that was mainstream back then. Most of the kids who went to Fairfield High School went to church because the girls had to be home around midnight on a Saturday to get enough sleep to go to church the next day. When you picked up a girl for a date you had to meet the parents. There were always two of them, as a divorced woman alone in a big home was still not considered normal. So in other words, there was a culture in Fairfield that aimed to produce some sort of quality in the family unit.
I went back to that church a few weeks ago and there was no youth. All that was left were gray hairs from my parent’s generation. The nice homes 20 years ago now had public housing residents filling them with single mothers caring for two to three children per home and those kids weren’t going to church. The culture in and around that church was dying and all you had to do to see it was look at it in the parking lot of the old church. It was spreading like a disease.
The reason I brought up Darryl is because he was speaking to a neighbor of his earlier in the week and they reported they were moving, because of the Forest Hills levy request. They had simply had it. You can read what Darryl said about this situation at the link below. I also have the broadcast by him discussing this during his Saturday show below the link.
http://www.700wlw.com/pages/onair_parks.html?article=9719712
Darryl is dealing with the microcosm of his neighbor leaving which is similar to what communities are dealing with in the macrocosm. When we fight these tax levies we are not trying to hurt kids, hurt the schools or the parents who move to these districts to attend the great schools. We are fighting to keep the costs low so that the cancerous destruction that we’ve seen happen in our lifetimes does not destroy our own homes and the communities they reside in. It is not our fault if the types of people who so easily vote themselves tax increases don’t understand the basics of economics. Or that they don’t care what happens to their communities 20 years from now because their plans are to sell their home and move any way.
Taxes do not incentivize people to stay in a community. Higher costs make them leave. It doesn’t matter if it’s a business or a residence. Anyone who governs money with a loose had and perpetually thinks that taxes can always increase is a fool who does not understand economics, and it is not the job of the wise portions of the public to give these people educations they should already have as adults. Those who believe in tax increases simply do not value money and that is a failure of their personal philosophies. They will not be allowed to destroy communities without opposition. Darryl is fighting for his community from his home district and I am from mine. I know of hundreds all across Ohio who are joining us in this endeavor, and they are all doing it for the same reason—they wish to preserve their homes and not see them destroyed by reckless tax increases initiated from a looter mindset.
The billboard in Lakota says it all. It’s an elaborate display designed to show off the wealth of the district and increase enrollment. But it’s also designed to advance the cause for further tax increases. Such a sign to me reminds me of the kind of gloating that went on in the days of Chester Road by Princeton High School, in glory days long gone, and at Fairfield. If the taxes continue to increase, the fate of all the poorer districts of Hamilton County are in the future for Lakota and it’s our responsibility as citizens to use our knowledge of history to prevent that treachery. Because without opposition, there will be more and more neighbors like the ones Darryl Parks mentioned leaving for land that is less restricted by taxes and allow the residents to keep the value of their hard-earned wealth. They won’t do it because they are mean, or selfish. They’ll do it because they are wise.
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Rich, I see the sign for what it is, advertisement. The Tomahawks program now competes with 2 (maybe 3 if you Catholic) other youth football programs here in Lakotaland. I’m pretty sure they aren’t subsidized from the schools (other than a place to have practices and play some games). They may see positive results from the billboard due to most grade school parents these days probably toss their Pulse Journal instead of reading it (where most youth sign up stuff is advertised). There are pros and cons to each football league here in Lakota. Parents need to ask questions and choose wisely. I’m struggling to find the connection between this and the school levy.
As far as pay-for-play…
$350 for JH, $500 for HS sports is not going to break the bank. Those numbers don’t compare to how much me and others pay for off-season leagues, training and memberships so our kids have a chance to make a team and succeed. Even a full cut in sports programs won’t get my vote on the next levy. The district still has tons of real waste to take care of. The sports my kids play, they can compete outside of school, and they’ll be attending a college for its academics anyway.
Oh, I have your blog entries sent to my email when posted. I truely enjoy your perspective on so may topics. Lot sof good reading, thanks.
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Thanks for the facts, and perspective. I wasn’t sure what the amount was for JH. And I’m glad you enjoy the posts. I hope to provoke discussion. What people chose to do with it is up to the community. But asking the questions is part of the process of figuring out what’s important and what isn’t. Good to hear from you.
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This billboard is for the Tomahawks, a 1st through 6th grade youth program. Although they use the Lakota name they are a private orginaztion self funded. They are not affiliated with Lakota Schools. I see nothing wrong with advertising your product especialy since there are a lot of choices for youth football in the Lakota district.
Had this billboard been for Lakota Schools Jr and Sr sports I could see your point!
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Thanks for the comments. I would argue that before all is done, all of Lakota will end up self-funded. You will notice that many of the cuts announced in last nights meeting involved social studies, literature and art, but certainly not sports. I think it’s great that these programs are self-funded. But unfortunately sports are used to hide the more serious economic problems.
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You are so off base on this that its not funny. This is a case of someone spouting off about something without having any facts whatsoever. Typical.
This billboard is for a YOUTH – read the sign – sports program. They happened to be located and service the LAKOTA community – hence the name, “LAKOTA” Tomahawks.
The Tomahawks made a discision last year to purchase reusable billboards to announce their registrations. After years of paying for advertising in a paper that now sits on most residence driveways until trash day, the organization decided to use the same amount funds for the billboards. In years gone by, the schools were very open to distributing registration flyers to all the students. Today, we spend hundreds of dollars for flyers that end up on the front desk in the office or in the trash. Which is very frustrating considering we are the only “Lakota Only” football program and main feeder system in the district.
What you see as opulance, we see as PRIDE. Those of us that have devoted ourselves to helping the kids of our community take a lot of pride in doing so. Your comparison here has no relevance whatsoever.
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Sure it does. The fact is, Lakota as a district has a lot of money, and people are willing to pay for what they want. But we also have very high taxes. Yet we are told that we don’t have enough money and that the schools are going bankrupt. Sports are pay to play now that the levies failed. Parents must pay for a service that was once offered as part of the public school experience.
But if parents are spending money on the sports fees, and volunteers like you are paying for large billboards, then where is the $160 million dollars we spend on taxes going?
It sounds to me that there are people like you who are willing to fund the sports programs as a private enterprise, which is good. So why put the Lakota name on it if it’s a private group?
Believe me, I’m glad to know this stuff. My impression was that our school is broke yet someone can afford a large sign advertising sports. I had dinner with a couple in Four Bridges the other night and they told me their taxes were over $5000 a year. Yet they have grown kids. What are they paying for and why does it have to be so much? Especially if the community has shown that they will pay for the sports programs on their own. Please do elaborate. I love info from the other side.
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As the President of the Lakota Tomahawks Youth Football and Cheer leading organization, a business owner in the district as well as a resident of the district and a tax payer to the district, I would like to make some clarifications to your statements. The name Lakota does not only refer to the school district but the community it serves, and many surrounding organizations including Churches, YMCA, other youth sports organizations, swim clubs and small neighborhood communities use the name to represent the area they serve. It is no different than assuming anything with the name Cincinnati on it is representing the Cincinnati Public School District.
The Lakota Tomahawks are a nonprofit youth football and cheer leading organization that serves the Lakota area and all funds are raised by the members of the organization.
Our organization is the only organization in the area that requires all of it’s members to be residents of the Lakota School District as required by our membership in the Community Youth Football League. The fact that all of our members are members of the district and all pay taxes to the district does provide them the opportunity to use the district facilities as long as any additional cost are covered by the organization. Since the beginning of our organization we have worked closely with the district to assist with the maintenance and improvements of the facilities as well as donating funds annually to the FIELDS project which is responsible for the turf fields at each of the high schools.
While we all agree that our taxes are too high and spending is out of control at all levels of government, our organization is dedicated to providing a service to the youth of the Lakota area at a very controlled and reasonable cost to our members. Our goal is achieved by many of the hard working volunteers that have dedicated countless hours of work to keep this program affordable to our families. We do not receive any funding from the district or any other organization.
Last year after the district had announced that it would no longer offer fall sports at the junior high schools the Lakota Tomahawks Organization offered to operate the football and cheer programs at no cost to the district. We had made an offer to purchase all the required equipment in the same school colors and donate it back to the school at anytime that they were able to bring football and cheer back to the schools.
While you may not think that sports are an important part of the community, please take into consideration all of the positive influences that are offered by the participation in organized or school sports. Historically it has been proven that students who are involved in organized sports achieve higher standards in academics as well as social environments. Many organization like the Lakota Tomahawks provide a positive growing experience for youth of today, in which helps to build a strong foundation for their future. You only need to look at many of the successful people in the world today that not only thank their parents, but many thank their coaches as well.
The Lakota Tomahawks are proud to be a member of the Lakota School District and are proud to have offered more than 12000 students an opportunity to participate in youth football and cheer leading.
Thanks
Ken Roesel, President
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Thank you Ken, you just gave me a whole bunch of ideas. Great information!
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I dont know – why is there a Lakota Sports Organization, Lakota Printing, Lakota Car Wash, Lakota Drive Through, Lakota Day Care and hundreds more. Does the school and residence taxes support these entities as well? If not – why is Lakota in the name…hmmmm…doesnt make sense. Give me a break.
Where and how people elect to spend their money is their business. Especially when it comes to their children.
Again – you dont kow your facts. The amount of time a child is in school as compared to the cost of that child going to school does not equate. The last figure I have seen is that it takes about 20 years for a typical household to pay for one child. Let alone households with multiple kids only paying taxes on one house.
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What facts don’t I have or know? Are you saying that high taxes do not destory communities? Because that what I was writing about. And I said that sports hide this sad fact. I pointed out Princeton, and Fairfield as examples of what taxation over a 20 year period does. Did I get those facts wrong?
I’m fine with sports. I enjoy them quite a bit. But we’re talking about funding problems and using taxes to cover the problems which ultimately destroys a community. Are you saying that I’m wrong?
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No – what you are wrong about is smearing the name of a youth organization that is considered by most one of the best sports values in the area. Comparing the efforts of local youth sports program ran by volunteers for the benefit of children to the school system. The good news is that the billboard gets attention, obviously money well spent.
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It does get attention. I’d say it’s more effective than adds in a paper.
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Rich,
I believe the point of your letter is start a conversation about the school levy and taxes. In order for people to focus on your intended topic I believe it would be helpful for you to answer the question everyone has asked. What is the connection between a Tomahawk billboard and the school levy?
I assume by now you understand that Tomahawks or any of the other youth football organizations in the area are not affilaited with the Lakota School system. No tax dollars were spent on the billboard. No tax dollars are spent on youth football. Levy fail, levy pass, youth football stays the same. Aside from the activity, it is no different then signing up for swim lessons at the YMCA or joining girl scouts. My daughter wants to learn crafts. My son wants to learn to tackle. How is the school going to use that to pass a levy?
You are using the wrong orgainization to make your point.
In order to get back to the conversation you intended please explain your logic. Or perhaps it would be best to stick to the school organized sports as your examples.
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The connection is this–the reason for for organized sports to use the Lakota name is to affiliate with the school system. The reasons for a business to use the Lakota name are to of course market their products specifically to the community pride of a school district. When I see a billboard for a sports program and it says Lakota, it draws my mind to school sports.
But that Lakota name is built by the tax payers. It is built by the community. So whether or not the organization is privately funded the name of Lakota is implied and used to help market the product that is created by the community through its taxes.
The trouble with this whole school funding issue is that everyone has their own little empires, and it’s impossible to know everything there is to know about every single detail. The people who are in this organized sports organization know a lot about it because they care and support it. But they often don’t know much about the other budget problems that are going on in the district. Most people want what they want for their child and have very little thought for what will happen to this community in 10 years with the kind of reckless behavior shown with these constant levy requests.
If the billboard is privately funded, I think that’s great. I will use that as an example of how the community could pay for band, art, and even high school sports as I know many parents would be happy to take over those costs from the school since they are so inept in balancing their own budget. In fact I would say that there are enough volunteers and private money that could float all the school programs away from the Lakota School System and allow us to have a 1/3 reduction in force since the public would take over all those duties of extracurricular activity. Now that would save some serious money!
The simple fact is that education success or failure is 100% in the hands of the parents. If they want their child to have something, they will give it to them. The taxes and wages that therefore go into these public school employees are nearly useless, and statistics prove it. And we can’t have that discussion because everyone is too concerned about their own little empires—their individual sports program, their band program, their college elective. The labor union uses these aspects of education as extortion, and if the public takes control of these social obligations, then what is there for the school to do? What power would the union have over the community?
In the meeting last night the reductions were to give the school employees less work to do. That’s essentially the case. They are reducing about 60 low tenure teachers and taking away one period of work for the day. It’s such a scam! Yet nobody wants to deal with it!
I’m personally sick of the whole system. My experience with these idiots has shortened my fuse to a point of no tolerance. In the beginning I gave them the benefit of the doubt, now I see they are a selfish lot only concerned about their piece of the pie. And I’m tired of these public school employees using children to do it!
I applaud volunteerism. I applaud the people who put that sign together if they did it without tax money. So my next question is why don’t we do that with the whole f**cking school system, because I’m sick of the bitching, sick of the crying, sick of the lack of will, sick of the empires who only look at their little world, and I’m sick of letting short term residents determine the long term fate of a district I’ve lived in for over 30 years! I’m tired of their ignorance causing the housing bubble collapse, the foreclosures, and the general ignorance we are seeing coming out of public school. And I want it fixed!
If I thought that billboard was affiliated with the Lakota School System I guarantee most of the people who see it think the same thing. So it becomes public relations for the school itself inadvertently. Now that I know the difference I am even more alarmed because it tells me that most of the school programs could be done the same way. It would probably be cheaper than the $500 fees to pay for programs that we have already paid in taxes! It’s a huge waste of money and a drain on our local economy the way its set up now and knowing what I know now makes me even angrier than I was in the beginning.
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Seriously? You’ve got yourself completely fired up over a youth sports program advertising billboard because it has the word Lakota? May daughter plays for a St. John West Chester CYO volleyball team and the entire roster is all Lakota elementary students. Does that piss you off too? What is the difference between me paying Lakota Tomahawks for my boys to play youth football and paying CYO fees for my daughter to play youth volleyball?
I read your blog occasionally and sometimes there is just no following your logic. The second you found out that the Tomahawk program had NOTHING to do with taxes or the school system you should have manned up and said “oops, my bad” but instead you’ve figured out a way to turn it around and get even more angrier.
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I don’t request that you follow my logic. Whether you can or not is not my problem. And it’s also not my problem if you can’t see how things go together.
I put this link up to help people like you, so go study it, then maybe we can talk.
https://overmanwarrior.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/an-indroduction-to-objectivisim-the-power-of-ayn-rands-philosophy/
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You were wrong. You jumped to the wrong conclusion about a billboard and it’s not the Tomahawks problem that you don’t understand a thing about their organization and how it is funded. And it’s not their fault that everytime you see the word “Lakota” you immediately get into a lather about the school system.
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Poeple like me? What does that mean?
P.S. Ayn Rand was a hack. 🙂
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Define that? How was she a hack? And believe me, it won’t hurt my feelings that you think such a thing. But your opinion displays much of what I suspected.
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I’m waiting. You are so much in a hurry to tell me I’m wrong it seems you lost the meaning of the article. I know plenty of people want to brag about “putting me in my place” in some way so you have rushed to one item and fixated on it, leaving many items lost to meaning. Then you disqualify Ayn Rand as a hack based on what opinion? Have you read the material? Or are you just repeating what you’ve heard?
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You are so easy. . . Do you not see the little smiley face icon? Just because I’m not a fan of Rand is irrelavent.
I read your article and the entire thing is based on you not understanding what a youth football program is. I’m not trying to put you in your place but this one is pretty obvious. Not being able to admit you are wrong is a major character flaw.
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I’m not wrong. I “gained” knowledge. Now I have a bunch of new ideas and perspective because of the feedback. I saw a billboard that said “Lakota” and wrote about the assumption it created. Now because of all this feedback, I have numbers and names and a lot of stuff it would have taken me hours to find on my own.
See it however you want. If terms like “right” and “wrong” are important to you, then that’s all you’ll see like the score in a contest. You either win or you lose. But the answers are not in those designations. And I get mad when people try to steer me off what I’m doing.
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And I get mad when people spout off before they even know what they are talking about and then refuse to fess up when they realize they were completely off base. It’s okay, we all screw the pooch now and then.
BTW – High school pay to play is really $550 not $500 at Lakota Schools. I’ve been a treasurer for two different booster groups and I don’t think people realize all the expenses involved in running these kinds of programs. Ref fees, league registration fees, field/court rental fees, field/court maintenance fees, uniforms, scorebooks, balls/equipment, advertising, storage facility rental, trophies/tees, etc. It really does add up and $350 – $550 per sport at the Jr. High/High School level isn’t that expensive when you compare it to the cost of playing club ball at that age.
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Can’t make everybody happy, so I don’t even think about it. And I could care less if something I did made you angry.
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Well if if makes you feel better, you’re not the only one who has sent me a correction today. I’ve been saying the tax burden per 100K of value is $1,140 and a guy sent me his numbers today that are at $1,533. So it looks like I was off…..oopps.
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“And I could care less if something I did made you angry.” Ugh, you are just so mean. 😦
Have a great day. It’s beautiful outside.
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While I knew the billboard wasn’t part of the district, I do know this….
The Treasurer of the District could not answer a simple question posed to her Monday night. Over $20 million in property tax revenue remains uncollected and payable to the district. While she was correct in stating that the county is responsible for collecting taxes, she could not answer a simple question as to who owes the money?
Wouldn’t you think the Chief Financial Officer of the district would know who (as a group or groups of people/businesses) owes the money and what the likliehood of the revenue being collected was?
Her answer of “I’ll have to get back to you” should be follwed by her resignation.
Finally, on my drive home last night at 10:00pm, I was in awe of how good the Lakota West football field looked glowing in the surrounding darkness.
It’s 10:00pm in mid February and this district that’s out of money (remember….. it’s a revenue problem) is burning up Lord knows how many kw hours of electricity lighting up a vacant football field.
Vote no….. again…….and again……….and again !!!!
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Great point! I’m so used to looking at those lit up football fields that I tune them out. Of course they are lit up to remind everyone what’s important.
The system is such a joke.
Please feel free to comment more often! Nice to hear some sanity for a change.
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wow Rich, once again you managed to elicit some really strong emotions here. To the poster who said “people can spend money on whatever they want” really? Thats not whats happening here….we get a levy request of xxxxx_____ mills……….NO transparency as to where the $ is going..although its a widely quoted fact that 80% of the budget is personnel costs. the other 20% ostensibly is to go to programs, busing, etc, things to help our children and keep them safe.
Rich has very consistently said the same thing several times……the union needs to ask for a 5% reduction in payroll from the employees before asking for more money.
The first thing that happens is busing is taken away (a safety and inconvenience that hits the parents hard), and then the next threat is cutting fine arts and raising sports fees…and the list goes on an on. many of the posters on this board cant wait to correct you over a few dollars here or there, yet you have no problem admitting you were wrong and you are learning from them. Why can’t people do the same? So you made a mistake about the billboard. Big Deal!! I voted yes in a past life. That was a mistake, once i was able to separate what the intention was to do with MY hard-earned money, and it was only to benefit an elite few.
I haven’t had a raise in 3 years, and my insurance stinks. welcome to the real world:)
LOL sorry for going off on a tangent!!
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Wow, what a joke! I can’t even comment on your stupidity and lack of of facts. Go back to your Mom’s basement like the rest of the occupy movement.
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You might be able to comment if you could understand the facts. How many facts do you want? And I think I will go back to the basement. Your wife and your mom are down there and they are lonely and need some care.
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Hey Ron aka “Mr driveby poster”….if you read the entire thread, you would see that Mr Overman was grateful to learn all the information and admitted when he made a mistake. Did you read anything other than the initial post? I can tell you Overman does not live in his Mom’s basement. LOL.
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