I am not a supporter of military engagement in Syria by America. If “they” do so, “they” will do it without my backing. If “my” military must engage in the long mismanaged debacle in Syria, it is due to the incompetence of our own government—driven by progressive politics that does not represent me—but has “progressed” along to do their own thing for global reasons. By saying such a thing I understand that the “establishment” will attempt to label people like me as a radical for not supporting our military—but so what. I could care less. To understand why, watch and listen to every video on this article so that you too may come to understand the real intentions, and meaning of the Syrian military engagement and what is really behind it.
Few recently have even contemplated how Syria acquired the supposed “chemical weapons” to begin with, which has set off this whole debate. As to the question as to why America must become involved in Syria the reason is that it is highly likely the weapons came from American CIA involvement to begin with. Here’s why:
As reported in the New York Sun on January 26, 2006:
“‘There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands,’ Mr. Sada said. ‘I am confident they were taken over.’”
“Mr. Sada’s comments come just more than a month after Israel’s top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam ‘transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria.’
“Democrats have made the absence of stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq a theme in their criticism of the Bush administration’s decision to go to war in 2003…
“The discovery of the weapons in Syria could alter the American political debate on the Iraq war. And even the accusations that they are there could step up international pressure on the government in Damascus. That government, led by Bashar Assad, is already facing a UN investigation over its alleged role in the assassination of a former prime minister of Lebanon. The Bush administration has criticized Syria for its support of terrorism and its failure to cooperate with the UN investigation.”
In September of 2002, Reid is quoted as saying:
“Saddam Hussein has, in effect, thumbed his nose at the world community, and I think the President is approaching this in the right fashion.”
And then in October of 2002, he said:
“We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction. It has refused to take those steps. That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict.”
And then, finally, in 2008, said:
“Now I believe, myself, that the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense…and you have to make your own decisions about what the President knows…is that this war is lost and that the surge is not accomplishing anything, as is indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq yesterday.”
I would also be equally nervous if I were Nancy Pelosi, who in December of 1998,said on her congressional website:
“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
And who then said in May of 2004:
“I believe that the president’s leadership in the actions taken in Iraq demonstrate an incompetence in terms of knowledge, judgment and experience in making the decisions that would have been necessary to truly accomplish the mission without the deaths to our troops and the cost to our taxpayers…”
Read more details about this issue at the link below.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/07/14/And-where-did-syrias-chemical-weapons
But how did the weapons get to Iraq? Well, many have long forgotten that Saddam Hussein was put in place by American desire to send Iraq into war with Iran, and the weapons likely were given to him by America, directly or indirectly, to off-set the Iranians during the Iran, Iraq war. From 1980 to 1988 Donald Rumsfeld could be seen shaking hands with Saddam Hussein openly showing support for Iraq.
Tensions between Iran and Iraq were fueled by Iran’s Islamic revolution and its appearance of being a Pan-Islamic force, in contrast to Iraq’s Arab nationalism. Despite Iraq’s goals of regaining the Shatt al-Arab,[note 2] the Iraqi government seemed to initially welcome Iran’s Revolution, which overthrew Iran’s Shah, who was seen as a common enemy.[4][25] It is difficult to pinpoint when tensions began to build, but there were some cross border skirmishes, including when Iraqi aircraft bombed an Iranian village that anti-Iraqi Kurds allegedly hid in on June 1979.[31]
After this incident, the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini called on Iraqis to overthrow the Ba’ath government, and it was received with considerable anger in Baghdad.[25] On 17 July 1979, despite Khomeini’s call, Saddam gave a speech praising the Iranian Revolution and called for an Iraqi-Iranian friendship based on non-interference in each other’s internal affairs.[25] When Khomeini rejected Saddam’s overture by calling for Islamic revolution [17] in Iraq, Saddam was alarmed.[25] Iran’s new Islamic administration was regarded in Baghdad as an irrational, existential threat to the Ba’ath government, especially because the Ba’ath party, having a secular nature, discriminated and posed a threat to the Shia movement in Iraq, whose clerics were Iran’s allies within Iraq and whom Khomeini saw as oppressed.[25] Some scholars have argued that Iranian-backed attacks and cross-border raids on Iraqi territory compelled Iraq to launch a preemptive invasion.[32]
However, Iraq’s regime was very politically secure, and in little danger of being overthrown by alleged plots of revolution-wracked Iran.[17] According to some sources, Khomeini’s hostility towards Saddam was actually milder than his Arab neighbors hostility towards Saddam.[33] Saddam’s primary interest in war stemmed from his desire to right the supposed “wrong” of the Algiers Agreement, in addition to finally achieving his desire of annexing Khuzestan and becoming the regional superpower.[17] Saddam’s goal was to replace Egypt as the “leader of the Arab world” and to achieve hegemony over the Persian Gulf.[34] He saw Iran’s increased weakness due to revolution, sanctions, and international isolation.[27] Saddam had heavily invested in Iraq’s military since his defeat against Iran in 1975, buying large amounts of weapons from the Soviet Union and France. By 1980, Iraq possessed 200,000 soldiers, 2,000 tanks and 450 aircraft.[4]:1 Watching the powerful Iranian army that frustrated him in 1974–1975 disintegrate, he saw an opportunity to attack, using the threat of Islamic Revolution as a pretext.[4][35]
Read all about that war at the link below, which also has a nice picture of Rumsfeld and Hussein warmly greeting one another.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
It would appear that once the relationship disintegrated between America and Iraq leading to two wars in two subsequent decades, the Iraq’s chemical weapons were stored across the border in Syria so that UN inspectors would not discover them leading up to the war with Iraq during 2003. America knew Iraq had the weapons because they allegedly supplied them, even if they couldn’t find them. That was because Hussein’s buddy Assad was storing them in Syria.
But years later after America had finally removed Hussein from control of Iraq, the modern progressives went to work on Assad. This is how John Kerry as a senator was seen dinning with Assad as their wives gathered to discuss all the fine shopping options in Syria. A photo is going viral (GO AHEAD, CLICK ON THE LINK) showing the Kerrys and the Assads enjoying quite the intimate dinner in 2009.
Kerry was leading a delegation to Syria to discuss peace in the region at the time. According to French news agency AFP, Assad told Kerry during that visit that America needed a “proper understanding” of issues Syria faces.
Kerry has met with Assad on numerous occasions and once lauded Assad in 2011 as being a “very generous” man, according to the Weekly Standard.
“Well, I personally believe that — I mean, this is my belief, okay?” Kerry said. “But President Assad has been very generous with me in terms of the discussions we have had. And when I last went to — the last several trips to Syria — I asked President Assad to do certain things to build the relationship with the United States and sort of show the good faith that
Now that all the progressive manipulation in the Middle East region has come to fruition it is time to cash in on the years of investment and wash everyone’s hands of the evidence. That is the cause of most conflicts between nations, when governments have to clean up their mistakes from the past. War is the great eraser which wipes away the sins of history—the manipulation of progressives in a region designed to advance their agenda.
The current situation in America is that Obama has a trail of scandals behind him and is falling in the polls. The Republicans are terrified of getting stuck in a budget battle in September, so all the statists in the American government need something to avoid the justice seeking their careers. War is the great unifier which often brings together members of all political parties under a common flag. After all, that is the mantra of the Skull and Bones Society. Military action of any kind is an attempt by the current government in America to erase years of mistakes they have made following interests that do not reflect The Constitution. I do not trust the American government to do the right thing, so I certainly don’t trust them to spend lives and limb to erase their errors at a cost I provide with tax money.
I’m all for providing humanitarian aid, but the poor people of Syria are only a small group of people in the grand scheme of the world where millions upon millions of people suffer under governments not advocating capitalism. Military engagements to help rebels who are built by terrorists to help former friends of Saddam Hussein is a no win situation that will not bring about justice, but only serve to allow the current government in America full of statists, progressives, and open socialists to cover the sins of their mismanagement of the Middle East region. So I do not support military engagement in Syria. If the U.N. wants to see justice there, let them use their own troops not supported by America do so, and see how far that goes. I am not open to allowing the United Nations to believe they have authority over Syria by dragging America into a war so that they can take the credit for justice at our expense. Syria is a mistake and will only serve to allow the bad guys to hide just a little while longer, and many of those bad guys, are in the American government. They cannot be trusted to do the right things…………because if they could be, there wouldn’t be chemical weapons in Syria to begin with.
Rich Hoffman
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The whole mess of the Middle East stems back to the treaty of Versailles. There’s a reason why Britain, France and America always want to wage wars in these countries…to cover their tracks. Nice article.
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To cover the tracks of their mismanagement. Not my mismanagement. Not your mismanagement. But their mismanagement. There is no “we” in this scenario.
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Yep. They want to use our lives and our treasure to fund their misguided adventures.
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This is such a deep and complicated situation, which has been brought about by our country’s actions and inaction. These actions span many administrations and Congresses (Republican and Democrat). However, that does not give us a pass, which we can say that we have done enough. As a human and a American, I feel we can always do better. There are countless times in our country’s history where we have done the wrong thing, and have had to correct it.
I believe this situation is reminiscent of one of those situations. In WWII, we had to ally with the Russians, whom certainly weren’t our best friends or the most humanitarian centric of regimes. We did this to defeat an even greater evil though. The situation we (the global community) are now faced with in Syria is a militant regime sparring with militant rebels. Stuck in the middle who have no way of defending themselves from a situation we helped to instigate. Do we simply look away like its some reality show train wreck? It’s an inconvenient truth that we helped to create this situation, but Rich has spelled out exactly why we should and what we need to own up to.
There is a real, terrible face to this situation (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-23892594) and the world should act accordingly. Our inaction continues to create a precedent that these actions are acceptable by rulers/regimes/governments can handle internal conflicts through the systemic execution of civilians. It starts with 1,000 in the last week and a half and escalates to what? Another 20,000? 50,000? 500,000? What is the ‘right’ number for us to decide to get involved with a coalition of the willing? As an American, we have found ourselves on the right and wrong side of history. So, which side will we be on this time?
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This conflict, if we choose to get involved in it has the potential to spark world war III. Why do we feel the need to police the world? What is our interest in it? Why if we care so much about innocent civilians do we not intervene more often in Africa, where massacres are the norm? After the mess of Afghanistan and Iraq, you’d think we’d have learned our lesson. Also, where is the budget for this war? We’re on the verge of going bankrupt.
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The budget for this? I assume it would be in the current Military budget since we already own all these planes, purchased this fuel, have the armaments in our possession. If you are so concerned about the nation going bankrupt, perhaps we should be having a discussion about continuing to reduce our military budget by ending overseas contingency operations and the amount of military assets we continue to deploy overseas. With our current strike capabilities, do we need to maintain that many overseas bases. Could those assets be better deployed to even further strengthen long-range strike capabilities?
As for the disregard of conflict in other locations, it is because they do not get the attention of conflicts in the Middle East, as their is not concerted media attention in this part of the world. The atrocities are more difficult to track as they aren’t being delivered to the suburbs on a rocket.
I agree that it is disappointing Congress doesn’t want to interrupt their Labor Day holiday to consider this, but getting the authorization is the correct thing. If you don’t think so, then I’m not sure how we discuss accountability in the future. Assad is not going anywhere, and does not seem to be letting up so if they are trying to play chicken with him, I do not think it will work and we need to strike quickly.
If the Generals were truly upset about this, I’m sure the Joint Chiefs would have pressed for immediate action, as they did when things came together to go after bin Ladin. I do not want a protracted war, as I want the mission to be stop the use of chemical and incendiary weapons, while continuing to protect American interests.
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I agree completely. Pull all our forces out of the Middle-East and half our military budget in the process. Isn’t it just a little ridiculous that we spend more on our military than every other nation combined!
Striking Syria does nothing for our national interests. Nothing good can come of it. All we’ll get is a nasty retaliation from Assad and probably the sinking of a few of our ships. Then it’ll be an outright war, engulfing all of the Middle-East.
Funny that the media doesn’t cover atrocities much in other parts of the world…almost like there’s no profit to be made in it…
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Well it looks like it turned out how you had hoped. I on the other hand having a military father I am madder than ever. The way this was handled was unbelievable. You can bet your ass our enemies are salivating. This wag the dog show that is this presidency is going to get our asses handed to us, now from all sides.
The minute you say you’re going to just cut the tail off the snake and not the head, you’ve lost your grip. Any warrior knows that. Hell, a 10 yr old knows that! Perhaps it’s best not to tease the viper (before an election) if you’re not willing to face the consequences. And there WILL be consequences. I can’t even imagine what Bibi is thinking right now.
My other beef is this crap that congress will just pick this up on Sept. 9th when they’re back in session. Heaven forbid the head meek should call back the flock of the weak early. Just do it on Sept 11th and really hand out a smack down.
I’m all around embarrased and disgusted for this whole monstrosity that is this administration. So is my father. I bet as Generals are as well.
This now isn’t about whether we went in or not. And it’s too late to save face……… unless you’re bending over.
Next time Barry, just unfriend them then hit the greens. You are not fit to run the powerhouse that is The United States of America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And there it is…
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/06/Senate-May-Vote-to-Fight-With-Al-Qaeda-on-911
For many of us, this administration is more transparent than any other in our lifetimes.
Call your reps! Right now!! (If they don’t cut you off, or have the voice mail set) Pathetic pos’s
Also, Doc was exactly right on for Glenn yesterday, and Breitbard has been reporting it all along that tptb will ram thru amnesty while the masses are pre-disposed with Syria. You gotta be multi tasking every minute.
Make those calls matter on each topic. Don’t bother emailing. They won’t be opened.
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I actually emailed both Senators and Speaker Boehner, and received responses from all three.
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And?
Was it a canned response of “I understand your concerns and are working hard to reiterate the voice of my constituents in Washington”, or was it something with some meat and teeth?
ACK.
Thank you for being involved. Maags office as did Chabot expressed to me several time that they can’t get to all the emails. That’s just the surface of who I call. Today was Flakes turn…and Chavffetz. Boehner is a nightmare and I’ve hand written several letters to him.
I just have to make the calls. I have questions that they aren’t going to get from the Enquirer or any other rag or the ABC outlets. That’s when you see who’s skin they’re really wearing. Their own or some lobbyist if not the potus’ himself.
I often wonder if they get in there and their families are threatened if they don’t “learn how to play.” I’d be naive to think that dosen’t happen. I have so many turncoats on my list, either they’ve become filthy stinking rich, mob ruled or both. I don’t put much stock in my efforts, but at the end of the day, I still have to sleep.
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Brown’s was actually very substantive. I also have a grade school friend whom works in Boehner’s office, so that probably helps.
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I just heard he did actually hit the golf course with drunken Joe right after this speech. It’s what he is doing right now! Man, I have more pull than I thought! To bad the genie’s to huge to stuff back in that bottle.
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LOL, he is absolutely pathetic. He put himself in this no win situation. He just looks like a bumbling fool. I watched his Rose Garden statement…….just a joke.
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As did I which I never do. Pathetic is right. If we think he looks that way, imagine the packs of wolves he taunted with steak instead getting a pixie stick. Damage is done. Has been. He just needs to golf his ass off and stay out of ANYTHING! Gawd. Worst president EVER!
Can’t unring that bell.
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I guess we will see how all this unfolds now… I should be able to get an update from Drudge Report in a few hours with all the leaks that keep coming out.
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Don’t count on much. It won’t be anything signifigant. Matt does rock and is my homepage.
Tptb want this to go away something fierce. They will lay it in the lap of the (right) usless representation that is congress (both houses) and 2014 will swing hard to the commies if the media has their way.
Not news. We’ve been screwed and tattooed since Nov 7th 2012.
Who knows….I do know for a fact gov Kupcake will go down in flames. If I have to stump for a leftie…I will. He’s toast…. especially on his most recent comments. And don’t get me started on John John. As far as I’m concerned, the repubs don’t deserve a sweep like 2010. The only thing that will change my mind is impeachment hearings. Period. Even then, I’ll still be a woman scorned.
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I like to get a couple hundred page views a day on Drudge 🙂 Love it!
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LOL! A couple hundred? A day??
And I thought I was a junkie! 😉
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It’s really always minimized and look anytime I look at my computer.
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